100% in agreement with you. This all games are using it bs. Secondlife is not a game. Not in the same way Fallout is. It's a Virtual Chat Site. I finally was able to enjoy sl with my lil gamer's laptop and now it's as if I'm running on 32 version system. It's miserable. But hey..lets do as the cool kids do. Damn the people that support you. Who without you would be nothing! Before you make things "better" , find out if it actually does. Please do something about the blinding lights and create better wind-lights. Some people have eye issues. Oh my bad...I forgot Corporate doesn't care about the little people.

No one asked for this 'genius' change. To me it shows how shockingly dissociated LL is from reality and needs of users.

Majority of SL users love it for the social aspect. Period. Most people just want to have a smooth experience and a good chat while being able to attend places without lag and visual misery. The game looked good already as it was and there was no effing need to 'improve' what already was good enough.

For majority of users installing the PBR viewers meant lowering their graphic settings and having their machines run hotter, putting a strain on the hardware. Seriously, am I the only one seeing the absurdity in it? You are promised prettier SL, and yet most people I know had to move the slider down and ended up having SL looking worse than before, and yet at the higher cost of CPU/GPU usage. Make it make sense?

People under 30 just have better games to play, and richer RL social life to attend. They don't want to rot their best years in life in front of computer like this. Your pseudo-better graphics won't lure them over all the other AAA games available neither.

Just my 3 cents ... but sure, continue pretending like all is good and it's all fault of the poor people who can't afford monster PCs.

Merged in a post from oOPanChanOo Resident:

Title: PBR Viewer

Details: A standalone viewer that is NOT blocked without this PBR innovation. Not everyone wants this stuff, some can no longer enjoy SL because of this innovation. It doesn't affect me but there are certainly enough people whose computers or laptops are now too weak for it.

So I think it would be sensible if LindenLab offered users two viewers. One without PBR and one with PBR. I don't know why we need mirrors in SL. In the end, everyone thinks they are the prettiest anyway. ^^

Don't do what Firestorm did and block the use of a viewer just because it's older. Give people a chance to be in SL without PBR

Merged in a post from oOPanChanOo Resident:

Title: PBR Viewer

Details: A standalone viewer that is NOT blocked without this PBR innovation. Not everyone wants this stuff, some can no longer enjoy SL because of this innovation. It doesn't affect me but there are certainly enough people whose computers or laptops are now too weak for it.

So I think it would be sensible if LindenLab offered users two viewers. One without PBR and one with PBR. I don't know why we need mirrors in SL. In the end, everyone thinks they are the prettiest anyway. ^^

Don't do what Firestorm did and block the use of a viewer just because it's older. Give people a chance to be in SL without PBR.

I'm not using PBR yet because I think my graphics and performance are fine without it. Maybe I'll try making a mirror on the SL viewer, but otherwise it's not worth risking a drop in performace or added stress on my computer.

Maybe only 10% of the current users will drop SL because of this graphics enhancement, but I doubt it will increase new user retention, so it will likely still result in a net loss to the active user base. 👎

Today i have cancelled my membership and did a downgrade to basic cause of that PBR Viewer issues. I am in SL nearly 20 years now (since 2006) and i never had any viewer issues before. I am on an iMac Pro Workstation with AMD Vega 64 card, a computer for US$9000 by Apple. I never had any viewer issues before and SL run smoothly without any fan noise, or graphics issues. The new PBR Viewer is a pain at my iMac Pro and everything has wrong colors, is shiny and bright and i can't get my old "Nam Perfect Prim / Mesh" settings to work. It simply looks horrible and my cute avatar is destroyed now. I also cancelled my LL home and gave up today. I tried different settings and viewer settings, it does not work at a mac. The alpha blendings are a pain too, the FPS went down to 10FPS or lower, my fan starts to blow and this never happend before at my workstation. An iMac Pro is still a very powerful Intel XEON Workstation, it can render most complicated Blender meshes without any blowing fans. I think it is the first time i ever heard the fans at my workstation. So i gave up today. It is not my fault, this is clearly LL fault and a wrong way to force PBR Viewers. So good bye after 18 Years.

LykanXEclipse Resident that doesnt fix shit as still same endlessly issues even did blacklist it. it needs be removed period. again another fix that doesnt help.

so i am gonna keep up saying truth these clowns will just find ways give fixes that dont do shit to fix issues. i have not seen one change to anything ever. they dont compute low end pcs cant handle it at all as they need options remove it

this is unlikely to ever happen PBR completely replaces the old rendering engine the old rendering engine dosent exist in the viewer anymore there is no way to switch back and forth its been replaced people just need to upgrade and they dont need fancy brand new gaming computers a mid range second hand system that has a dedicated graphics card with at least 6gb of vram should suffice integrated graphics simply isent powerful enough for SL anymore because that's really the only option SL cannot keep supporting old antiquated stuff if it wants to keep moving forward keep its userbase and get new users there has been a big decline in userbase and not cus of PBR but because sl has become old and outdated so what sl is getting ios a entire complete make over so that it doesn't fade into obscurity and non existence