A Banned Avatar Should Not Be Able to Return Objects
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Jennifer Boyle
I recently had reason to verify that an avatar who was a member of the land group with the required abilities could not stand outside a parcel from which she was banned and return objects from the parcel. I had assumed that this would not be possible. I was surprised that it is possible.
This is obviously a security issue and should be fixed. If an avatar is banned from a parcel, they should not be able to do anything to objects on that parcel.
Why would it matter? Would a banned avatar be a member of a land group? It could happen by mistake. The group owner and that avatar could have a falling out, and the owner could ban the avatar and forget to remove them from the group.
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Saphire Sweetwater
As long as there is a way for the banned avatar to return/take their own objects from the parcel they're banned from still (or better yet - if a person if banned from the land it auto returns everything they owned from it/deeded to it), I support this.
When I helped decorate club for someone who was my business partner, we had a falling out where i was banned from the land. I was able to land on a neighbors parcel long enough to return all of my objects (some of which were no copy) as i still had that permission via the group. If not for that they would've basically "stolen" about $10-20,000L worth of stuff from me. While I could have been "malicious" and returned everything, I just wanted my own items back faster than camming over and picking everything up one object at a time.
Jennifer Boyle
Saphire Sweetwater I agree that banning the avatar should cause all of their objects to be returned.
belindacarson Resident
Saphire Sweetwater wendi linden once answered a forum thread about this. If you got banned and were unable to reclaim your items, support would recover them for you.
Ziel Omizu
Jennifer Boyle I disagree - sometimes the situation is nuanced, and a builder who was banned doesn't necessarily want to rip up ALL of their objects from a project. I know I've left my landscaping work I've done behind in places I've fallen out with.
Maybe returning only "no copy" items to their inventory by default, and a button option from an outside "objects in banned location" menu could have a "return all" button...? This would allow for the nuance from above, while also preventing theft of items within banned regions.
Jennifer Boyle
Ziel Omizu, I understand and agree. The only part of this that I'm not flexible about is that avatars that are banned from a parcel should not be able to do anything to objects that they do not own that are on the parcel, and that the only thing they should be able to do to objects they own is to take or return them.
Jennifer Boyle
belindacarson Resident, it seems that that intervention would likely only be needed on private islands. On the Mainland, it would be unlikely that there would be no place an avatar could stand and cam into the parcel from which they were banned, or use area search, and return their items. I didn't test to see if a banned avatar could take their own items from a parcel from which they were banned.
hinaichigo Xaris
I think is just what you said:
* The land is owned by a group.
* The group has a role able to return objects in the lands owned by this group.
* The banned user has this role, so he can return objects.
* The user was banned from the land, not the group, so he still having the role privileges.
As you said, the group owner should ban the avatar from the group.
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Hello, and thank you for bringing up this important security issue regarding banned avatars being able to return objects from a parcel. This concern has been previously reported in our Jira archive under the issue number BUG-233950. We are merging your comments with the existing report to ensure it gets the attention it needs. While we cannot provide an exact timeline for when this might be addressed, please know that it is now being tracked. We appreciate your vigilance and your commitment to improving the Second Life experience. Thank you for your valuable input!