Cowork (Anthropic) to tame large inventories
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Dictatorshop Resident
Hear me out. If cowork can organise years and years of harddrive mess, identify and remove duplicate items, then there MUST be a way to do it for inventory items. Seriously, I would pay real money to have a LL approved and trained ai get in there and do some heavy cleaning.
Think of all the storage space you could save, LL. And all the user time saved when people can find their stuff. If it was a LL initiated tool, it would be able to know things not necessarily available to users - like object creator without having to rez it first. It could know categories of things and what percentage of users delete a freebie set from 2008. If the helper ai was presented as another avatar you could talk to, it could just ask intelligent questions like, do you want all the freebies you gathered at the newbies hubs? If not easy clean, or simply moving it all into a "pre trash" folder so the user can have a look at it before the final chuck.
And have it read all the notecards, figure out if there is anything important, if so categorize and if not pre or trash it. The ai could ask, you have ten years with of grid affairs notecards those are all in the past, keep and organise or delete?
If this could all happen in a private space where the ai could assist with the identification and outcome for the 1000 things called object in your inventory by doing a quick rez, you give it the thumbs down, gone. Thumbs up initiated a rename where possible and it's pushed into the new organisation structure. The user would have feedback in the proposed organisation so that they can actually figure out what is what after.
This last thing would require user interactions but if the ai is presented as an Avi it amounts to body doubling and more people might get further in the process than they do now 'just trying to get organised '
EVEN just some fundamental help could help, this could be billed as a one off service, or perhaps a once per year included at the highest tier.
I hope this doesn't seem too far out there, because currently available tech COULD do this, it would just need the right access and implementation.
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Niri Neon
You keep AI out of my inventory, d'ya hear?
JulsToffy Resident
Absolutely not. I'd rather not have any AI going through my inventory and doing any management. Also I don't know about others, but for me organizing my stuff is part of the fun. What's next, AI gonna enjoy SL time for me? Yeah, I don't think so.
JuanMarshall Resident
A neat, organized inventory might (just might) be a sign of a sick mind (apologies to Dr Einstein). Remember that your inventory is a tool for you, not a showcase.
Any attempt to impose a change to my inventory from outside is simply asking for trouble.
If your inventory bothers you, you know what to do.
Sterling Ronzoni
A way to show the exact duplicates in inventory and where they are located, and then let you select the copies you want to keep and the others to delete, would be a helpful tool for reducing inventory redundancy.
Ghost Menjou
No AI bullshit in the viewer.
Ikaros Alpha
Years ago LL decided that many users had too many items "in the objects map". They told us they were going to run a script on all of our inventories.
In short: if your objects map contained more than xxx objects, they would be put in subdirectories.
My inventory was really well organized and I had only 19 items in 'objects'. So I thought I was totally safe.
Guess what? LL's script created 19 subdirs!!! $^#*#$()!!%%@#$
Crush Cutie
Oh no.
YOU THINK YOU WANT THIS - BUT YOU REALLY DON'T
Your inventory is an unmanageable pigs mess.
It is larger than you can comfortably hold in your head, so stuff gets lots, you forget you have things or where / what exactly it's called or sorted away.
The only way you're able to find anything at all is by constantly digging around in inventory. This constant frustration refreshes your memory and is essential. It's also a chore.
If someone else (or a bot) came in and "sorted" your inventory, then suddenly your mental map no longer fits. In effect you lose everything all at once and have to start over rediscovering everything you can't remember the exact name of is.
If someone came into your house and rearranged everything you own, it would take months to find it all again. Just like moving house, some things will simply vanish forever presumed lost in a still to be unpacked box.
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The actual solution is to stop being a horder and delete the items you are no longer using / need.
Don't put things in boxes or find other ways to hide your trash mountain out of sight out of mind.
DELETE THE JUNK
Jennifer Boyle
Crush Cutie, those who share your concerns could simply not use the tool.
Dictatorshop Resident
Crush Cutie I am not a hoarder, I have old avatars and shit builds up in TWO DECADES of running an active SL business and social venue.
I would not want a tool that just did all of it without consultation, but being able to say, get all my clothes, shoes and avatar accessories in my clothing folder. Show me (or maybe stage for deletion) all of these items from before date X. I have 20 year old clothes, it's all mixed in with my newer mesh things. It would be convenient to have all that old items out together to be scanned through and safely deleted (except that fedora from 2007, lol).
Kruft happens, even to organized NON-HOARDERS, so get off your judgement ledge! My shop currently has OVER 900 active items. I do NOT need to hoard to have a large inventory!
What would enhance such a tool would be an archive system, so say I wanted to take all furniture I built before 2020, organized it by what it is and folderize it and "archive" it into a specific archive location and have that NOT coming up in searches or dropping open in my inventory. Then it would still be there, but out of active memory, maybe not even loading unless I specifically need it to.
Such an archive would need a tagging system for folders, even if only a simple meta-readme notecard system, "this is all furniture I built before 1 Jan 2020." Then it would be possible for the inventory AI to easily surface archived items because those items have more context than just a short folder name to work from.
oop Resident
Jennifer Boyle It better be optional because this is a disaster waiting to happen.
Orion Greymoon
Ignoring all of the technical challenges this would represent, I think its an outstanding idea. It could also set the stage for other types of AI integration into our SL accounts.
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Nya Jules
The idea could be combined with https://feedback.secondlife.com/feature-requests/p/manage-inventory-from-website
Jennifer Boyle
Oh, please, please, please!
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