Regions need a new default windlight (Legacy & PBR Combined)
g13n Resident
Updated: 18 May 2025
Most regions in Second Life are still using the old legacy windlight by default. This means that even if someone is using a PBR viewer with shared environment enabled, they’ll still see a blue tint. This causes confusion, assumed it's a graphics card issue not being able to handle PBR.
I really want to see LL fix this by creating a new default windlight that works with both Legacy and PBR viewers. If you're unsure how, I made a full perm windlight that looks good on both viewers that you can use as a template:
This matters to me because I create a lot of glass products and as you can see the difference between them both: https://gyazo.com/345080efe6aadb683abebc611e6f9693
I'm currently landscaping for a client on a community estate, and used my glass in many areas, but all their regions are using the default Legacy day cycle Windlight. When residents of this estate drive around using shared environment, they will see my glass like this: https://gyazo.com/7553103b21e27e2d07165b3eda30cb47
This issue has been brought up many times before, but many of us couldn't create a Windlight suitable for both viewers until now.
You can upload a new default + day cycle on Marketplace, include it in our inventories, and send out an email to all region owners on how to set this up.
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Crexon Resident
The default is what ever the parcel environment is, not one of the presets. As it should be since land owners set the environment so what looks best on their land. If you or someone else is getting the midday preset on login for the LL viewer then you changed the settings to make it such.
If Firestorm is doing something different in their viewer, then this request should be made with them. Linden Lab is not in charge of the Firestorm viewer.
g13n Resident
Crexon Resident I agree, and I should have written it better. I wanted to mainly address region windlights. The default windlight on 90% of regions are set to a legacy windlight. So even when people use shared environment, they are going to be seeing a blue tint.
I want LL to work on solution to replace this legacy windlight with a brand new default with Legacy & PBR combined together.
Crexon Resident
g13n Resident LL has stated a few times both at the town hall meetings, and on the discord as of right now they no intention on changing of the legacy settings on any of the mainland continent. Reasons given is they want to wait till until more people are using V7 viewers.
So we could see a change as you has suggested here. But it might be very very long time.
g13n Resident
Crexon Resident That's fair enough for mainland, but at least they could create a PBR & Legacy combined windlight for standalone regions. Upload it to marketplace, email all region owners as a temporary solution until everyone has converted to PBR. I created a windlight pack that works for both and included a full perm version they could use as a template.
It's just a way to help encourage us creators to continue creating PBR. We all feel it, especially clothing designers, they would feel it the most.
Crexon Resident
g13n Resident Everyone already has a a set in their inventory right now under Library>Environments>PBR
Rowan Amore
Since you mentioned Firestorm, you may want to post this in their Jira.
g13n Resident
Rowan Amore Thanks for that. I've now updated my main post to show that this is a general issue with Second Life, not just Firestorm. I'd really like to see LL send out an email explaining how region owners can switch to a combined windlight that works with both Legacy and PBR viewers.
I just want to see some progress, because at the moment, it feels like nothing is being done.