Creating RV Life in Second Life
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Xiu Crisp
I would like to suggest that Second Life PLUS or higher memberships should have an alternative to static housing locations. I would like to see Linden Labs establish RV Parks and make it possible for PLUS or higher memberships to have a temporary spot in an RV Park and drive the Linden Road System and see many places.
Obviously, this means mobile home RVs, like the large ones you see on the road. maybe something like the Benz ones with the box on the back.
Being able to reserve a spot would be nice. Having a max duration would prevent people from squatting at the best locations, but this could be a way for Linden Labs to reduce the constant turnover of Linden Homes.
And create some fun activities like collecting Park "stamps" or travel "badges".
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Oatmeal Linden
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Hello Xiu! Thank you for the interesting suggestion! We will mark this as tracked for future consideration.
At this time, we do not have the resources or staffing for this type of venture. This would involve creation of a landlording account for handling issues with the leases, as well as managing the rental boxes. Limiting the rentals to paid subscribers only would require scripted checks of private account information, and may break our own privacy policies.
You may find links to our policies from this wiki page: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Official_Information_and_Policies_Portal
This may be best realized by the means and tools already existing within Second Life. A landowner on the mainland may choose to create a park that others can use as a camp for a limited period, and they may use a group or the parcel access list to determine who may use their land.
You may wish to propose your idea in your inworld groups or on the forums. Second Life is full of creative people with many varied interests, and we are happy to provide the tools to create the world and experiences you desire! It is very likely that you can find others who are willing to work with you to create one or more parks like this!
Toothless Draegonne
Oatmeal Linden
Groups already have the capacity for tier donation. That could, with a bit of extra calculation, be used to determine how much LI you're entitled to rez up in the park, without specifying a specific amount of square metres.
Given that these would be temporary structures (let's say, 24h maximum for the sake of argument), and nothing permanent beyond high-altitude skyboxes, LI rather than space would be the more sensible limiter here. A process could be run every few hours that would return anything on the ground floor that's been around longer than a max time. Any scripted checks would be carried out by the Lab which already has that information, and would only need to confirm whether you have donated your tier to the appropriate group, and how much you have donated.
I know this isn't the first time I (and others) have brought up the idea of a national park, and really it could serve as an "RV Life", SL nomads, camping, boating, flying and general exploration continent that's otherwise lacking in a vast mainland full of crazies with griefer orbs.
Toothless Draegonne
This could go along with the existing request to turn abandoned land into a forest, and my own ideas on creating a resident-assisted National Park. Create a linden homes-type continent, where anybody can choose to donate their tier instead of having a LH or Mainland tier. This would grant them the right to have a presence of some number of land impact, be it via RVs, moonshine shack, tent, boat house, whatever, within the national park.
No permanent structures below 2000 or 3000m, no ban lines or orbs, just a massive blob of land where anybody donating to it gets managed rez rights, possibly using Casperlet or a similar system. Include a designated combat area so people can have fun with their pewpews. Maybe a couple of rail tracks and dirt tracks connected to the mainland proper.
Resi Pfeffer
While i like the idea in general, its still a waste of Linden Labs ressources for several reasons.
- There is already RV Life: get a camper themed LH
- Moving between parcel already exists by abandoning the current LH and getting a new one
- Reserving already exists for Premium+ members using the ticket system
-(almost) no one is physically driving/travelling anywhere because:
-- a big chunk of SLs population is here for lewd activities
-- another big junk is dressing up, shopping, clubbing
-- another smaller junk is creative, building, running a business or club
-- and a very tiny minority is sailing,flying grid driving and GTFO-ing
--- I live around blake sea for manyyy years and i spend quite a lot ot time inworld. If you see boats passing by, either in Sailors Cove, 2nd norway or around Nautilus, its often the same people over and over again.
Even less people fly, Angels AP, Holly AP, etc are either empty or have just a few souls. The only buzzing place is Sirens Isle - for "show off" reasons like "look how nice i can dance on the deck of my sail boat i drove here without even the sails raised" or the typical 800 prim BBX monster motor yacht from 2015.
If you have a look at GTFO boards youll notice its always the same few names doing all the hauls.
And last but not least, the worst ever - driving a vehicle over Linden Roads.
There is a reason why almost no one does it, except the brave grid drivers - its an awful driving experience.
TL/DR
I love the idea, but i can see why LL might give 1000 other ideas and wishes a higher priority
P.S.
Almost forgot about the Linden Railway system all around the LH continents. Its nice to see the tracks and stations, but when was the last time i saw someone riding on?
Toothless Draegonne
Resi Pfeffer
Speaking for myself, one of the big reasons I don't bother flying around the madlands, are the psycho crazies and the sociopaths with griefer orbs who think it's okay to fire off SAMs at anything and anyone flying over, regard the natural propensity to explore land that isn't specifically blocked by way of parcel ban lines, as some kind of home invasion scenario, and refuse to use existing parcel access management because "ugly yellow lines :(((((" that can be disabled in the viewer.
Faced with that kind of environment, who beyond a determined few would even want to attempt to navigate the madlands? Getting teleported home at random every 5 minutes is just not very fun.
Beatrice Voxel
Considering that Linden Homes are pretty tight on prims as it is, the idea of 'downsizing' into an RV that can be parked wherever there's a spot available would be lovely. Not only would the prim limit make more sense since there's, you know, less living space, but there's a bigger social aspect - right now Glory Road has two, maaaybe three others present when I visit my home? (the last time it was a crew of Moles keeping the street tidy.) It would also open up the Road system to more usage, people would be able to meet each other more organically than by visiting shops or venues held in common, and so on.
The only problem I would potentially see is Home Location being updated. A static home can be landmarked and set as one's rez point easily, a mobile home or vehicle is a more 'interesting' exercise. Would the RV need to perform these tasks when parked, both updating the owner's rez point and sending a landmark? or would it need to pop a reminder dialog instead? Not sure if LSL or the new SLua languages can handle this.
And yes there would need to be logistics for allowing object entry/semi-permanent rez for such "roamers" without allowing griefers to exploit those same permissions. The RV's themselves might need to be whitelisted for designated parcels (and have functions to put out awnings/grills/seating that are actually linked to the vehicle rather than rezzed in situ) so that there's not an issue with people rezzing 'stuff' cos they can park an RV and leave it there.
animats Resident
Every once in a while, Drivers of SL has a social event where people bring an RV or trailer to a campground and spend the weekend. Cheerleaders of SL, which operates Cheerport and a vehicle business, often gives out something like a small house trailer to participants.
There are some campgrounds on mainland:
- http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Adelara%20Lake/233/160/22 is L$75/night, for example.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFytpkTcczE
So this is available now, on a small scale.
Lelani Carver
Sounds like a fun idea that would build communities
Oriella Charik
As an Estate Manager I'd be happy to set aside a small plot or two for RVs, with as noted a time limit for users. Another way of attracting permanent renters!
Kliofiria Resident
Aye, as a big fan of RVs I'd happily support this one! Wonderful idea
Katherine Gearz
I like it!
Iskrin Nightfire
You could do the same with houseboat docks and driveable houseboat/barges/yachts
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