Enable Requests for Bellisseria Commercial Stores by Ticket Only
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Prokofy Neva
Currently, there is enormous dissatisfaction among the merchant population with the inability to find readily available commercial stores in Ridgewood Enclave, where large tracts of them were dropped in the last year. When the Moles release entire sims' worth of the stores, inevitably at an inconvenient time zone for significant portions of the population, there is a mad scramble for them. Thus, few can obtain them in a fair and orderly manner, sometimes camping the store spawn for hours or even all day in the fever to get a scarce store.
Numerous examples abound where a single person has grabbed more than one or two stores and uses alts and enlisted friends to sequester multiple stores under one brand without even an effort to make them different.
Worse, when a store is abandoned, a throng of people can develop waiting in anguish for the 1.5 hours or more to elapse before the AVAILABLE sign appears. While the kiosks that now give lists of available stores are an improvement on the original insane scrum, in fact the available stores do NOT appear on kiosk lists WHEN abandoned but are only listed AFTER the AVAILABLE sign appears. Only by constantly paying attention to Bellisseria Merchants, a resident-run group which has taken over store registration, as well as other Bellisseria groups, can prospective store owners hear of an abandonment coming.
The Premium Plus account of $15.99 a month, a substantial expenditure for many, has the feature of requesting certain exact Bellisseria
homes
by location, instead of accepting a random option from the web site. So there is no reason not to add requests of stores
for Premium Plus. This could be done in addition to the "kiosk" available list and the "sudden large drops" by Moles.But ideally, ALL STORES SHOULD BE REQUESTED BY TICKET to reduce the amount of hoarding and sequestering of multiple stores under the same brand/group and more importantly, the stress of the survival of the fittest in the mob rush to get a store. The Lindens can either automate this random fulfillment of ticket requests if it seems like a burdensome chore, or advisedly, eyeball them to see if multiple requests by one person are occuring. A "first come, first serve" solution that would randomly deliver an available store to each person who filed a ticket would be more fair and more predictable for both residents and Lindens/Moles.
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Hello Prokofy! Thank you for your feedback about the Ridgewood Enclave Commercial District. We are marking this as tracked for further review.
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Snowlord Resident
While I certainly agree there should be better restrictions on owners using alts to expand storefronts/brands to multiple shops I feel the selection process is fine as is. It can indeed be tricky to obtain a shop no matter how it is setup, if it were a ticket system it could get abused by readying users/alts to write up tickets, abandon, then submit said tickets right after. Too it would put more work on an already time consuming ticket list to process. lastly as far as 3rd party sites showing what is available etc, that has been dwindled a ton since LL added the kiosks which is good. I personally didn't care for the sites that had users going in to locations to create "lists" of available shops/abandoned homes which really just adds avatar traffic that has nothing to do with store specific traffic.
remi Enersly
I agree. It's like Walmart on Black Friday. People have died to get those items! i add a request for a store with every ticket I submit. No matter what the ticket is for. And what about bars? no one is ever at the one i see. Maybe the owner should have to spend a certain amount of time in the store. Or maybe post hours of operation not for whether doors are locked (lol that's funny in SL, locked doors.) Not for locked doors but for the customers. Nearly all the stores I have visited are empty, every time I swing in. So what's the store for? If I get a store I will post hours of operations so that my customers can come talk with me. I will not be an absentee owner.
Garnet Psaltery
I don't even think about these areas now since I could never get one. A ticketed system is a good idea but not at random; make it a fair queue. I didn't know it was possible to claim more than one store but that is entirely unfair and should be regarded as abuse of the system.
Prokofy Neva
Garnet PsalteryWell, "at random"
would be
a fair queue, by which I mean "use the same system you already have in place for allocating Linden homes which is 5 tries per day, at random" -- which would be more orderly than the randomness of forcing people to wait around for hours or even days for the kiosk to get a notice of abandoned land and then serve it out when clicked.The Lindens have proven incredibly resistant to changing their alleged "at random" allocation system (which is the same sort of flawed system they used to have for delivering the newbie stream to various welcome area resident-run sites). "Random" when you have such a finite set of items as in SL means that you can repeat a single choice several times and even in theory five times in a row -- and that should be eliminated and likely there is a Canny on THAT problem. That is already a very frustrating bug-not-feature of the existing Linden home distribution system.
A truly fair system in fact would involve a serial processing of each available home or in this case stores as they came up -- the "random" idea only leads to repeats and ultimately failure. The same system tht generates the list for the kiosks can be taken over by the ticketing system, since 90% of the time when the stores are NOT dropped in huge batches, waiting for the kiosk proves to be a fruitless and frustrating system. As I know myself, only by persistently hanging around for entire days at a time could anyone ever catch an abandoned store accidentally. The other way is also accidental -- to be online, and in the "right" Bellisseria group, to see the chat about somebody dropping their store.
Yes, people claim more than one store on alts, and enterprising owners or brand managers simply line up a whole bunch of alts and/or actual real-people friends and they wrangle the stores. I see some people then doling them out to friends after they've wrangled bunches in a big drop. This follows the "Game of Homes" pattern where at peak times you will find people even with 100 houses, or all the houses on several sims.
remi Enersly
Prokofy Neva In my experience most of the avatars visiting the commercial regions are the ones hoping for a store.
Dana Enyo
I gave up.