Slow Down On Adding To Bellisseria And Give Us The Gaeta Continents Instead
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Beylana Resident
Belli is great. It is beautiful and the houses are fantastic. It's been well built and everything about what it is, is on point. But, the thing that makes it not an attractive option to many users is it is just one vast neighborhood for premium members. The lack of communal places (I know there is a few like the fair grounds, but they are very few and far between) and the repetitive nature of the sims with nothing but houses is not an attractive option to a lot of people who have premium (like myself).
At this point we have more houses than people interested in them and there are plans for a LOT more sims and subsequently houses to be added to Belli over time. I do not think adding MORE housing to Belli will increase premium memberships.
Where the real opportunity lies is in land sales on Mainland in my opinion. If we could get Gaeta I finished and connected to mainland, then get Gaeta II, III, IV, done as well with nice roads and waterways there will be a ton more interest in that I feel like, than in living in the vast repetitive suburbia that is Belli.
If we aren't going to maintain things like Bay City (which I personally feel is one of the best mainland cities in SL) then I feel like we should be given more space, more land, more roads, to make fun communal spaces and activities for everyone. If you look at mainland, especially by the roads, we as the users have made so many amazingly fun places that are for everyone to use, and THAT is what I feel like will bring in new users and new premium accounts. More unique and up to date places to come together as a community and have fun!
I know the point and purpose of Belli was to entice people in to getting premium memberships and bring in new users with how gorgeous it has been built. But I feel like we are at the overkill point of that project, and what will REALLY drive more premium memberships and more new users is more content made for everyone's enjoyment rather than a dwelling space. Give us the Gaeta continents and let us make them fun using all the new tools for creation at our disposal. Make the roads and waterways with vehicles in mind as well, and I can almost guarantee there will be increases in premium accounts and new users.
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GiselleSeeker Resident
Agreed
Daedalos Alpha
Been asking this since I lived on Turpentine (2008) ...
Nika Talaj
There's a lot to love about Mainland. But I don't think that finishing subcontinents and improving connectivity on Mainland will lead to appreciably more land being purchased and more premium users. For me, the main barrier is the risk ... nay, over time the near-certainty ... of having a neighbor create some god-awful build or social situation. I think that is the issue that drives people to Belli, even though it is so very suburban.
My own wish is for a new land product, something that is lightly covenanted but not strongly themed, with the flexible parcel sizing and ability to terraform that mainland offers, but with more landscaping and thoroughly protected waterways. If LL governance made clever use of AI, covenant enforcement for things like encroachment and height limitations would be less salary-intensive than it is now.
Irishk9 Aeon
Nika Talaj Not everyone is particularly sensitive to this concern. Theres plenty of options for everyone at this point & it would be best to proceed in that way. Neglecting the mainland is not a successful strategy for a virtual world platform. Best to evenly developed all the aspects of the virtual world platform or there's a danger of it being pigeon holed as merely a housing simulator.
Jerrod Diavolo
Nika Talaj Personally I see it this way, I can either live on mainland and risk having a neighbor with something ugly move in or I can live on Belli and have a guaranteed ugly suburban hellscape around me.
GiselleSeeker Resident
I have been thinking the same things for quite a while, Beylana! Right on!
Littlemouse Topaz
GiselleSeeker Resident sure you can. With limitations. I've been on the mainland for nearly 3 years. I still haven't figured out how to change the texture of the ground though.
Littlemouse Topaz
Oatmeal Linden the problem with the mainland that residents find frustrating is the inability to terraform and change the texture of the land. without the use of platforms and such, it makes building very difficult. if you gave us more options on how we can build on the mainland, i think more people would buy it. i live on the mainland and without the use of platforms and other building aids, i wouldnt be able to develop my land. i love living on the mainland, it would be nice if we had more options. i would love to be able to level my land out and not have a hill in the middle of it.
GiselleSeeker Resident
Littlemouse Topaz the advantage of the Mainland is that you CAN terraform it and make it your own - in many ways.
Jerrod Diavolo
GiselleSeeker Resident Most places on mainland are restricted to +-4m from their default terraform height and obviously you can't change the textures since that is a region/estate only setting.
GiselleSeeker Resident
Jerrod Diavolo and how much are residents able to terraform their land, or add to their land in Bellisseria?
Jerrod Diavolo
GiselleSeeker Resident The fact that LL has places that are even worse doesn't mean it is not frustrating to work with.
Blueridge Azalee
I agree, Non Gaeta needs to be connected to Corsica so that you have all the continents connected, Gaeta IV is connected now, but you need to add more protected water coast line around the northern and west part of Corsica with no building, ban lines or orbs allowed so that travel by boat and plane are useable. And it needs to be finished on the west side of it also so that it can be navigated by boat or plane, and it needs roads all over it so the residents there can travel their own continent. I have driven every road on all the main continents and this one is by far the worse. Even the Adult continent has some of the best roads in SL to drive, just not much there as most of it is all sex, sex, and more sex.
Wicked Nightfall
O V E R K I L L - so many other things need this level of attention
AlettaMondragon Resident
"Slow Down On Adding To Bellisseria"
To be honest, they have already slowed down the Bellisseria project big time, which is not a surprise with so many homes staying empty. At this point this is not a matter of Bellisseria vs Mainland, there is really no development or expansion to expect. Especially not while losing many users every month.
Oatmeal Linden
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Hello, and thank you for your feature request regarding expanding or finishing the Gaeta mainland project. This suggestion has been brought up in the past and will be set to tracked. We have no estimate when it may be implemented, but please keep an eye on future updates.
Currently, there are no plans for expansion or development of mainland. The current mainland has a lot of space waiting for development by Residents. If you have a large community project in mind and need land for it, please submit a support ticket requesting assistance with locating such a space. https://community.secondlife.com/knowledgebase/abandoned-land-r1034/#Section__7
We appreciate your input and encourage you to continue sharing your ideas to help improve Second Life.
SarahKB7 Koskinen
I too would also like to see the Gaeta continents completed.
Gaeta I was the second Gaeta continent to be built, but only partially. Its entire eastern side was never completed in 2008 and is still missing today.
Gaeta II, III and IV continents were also planned, they were never built due to the late 2000's worldwide economic recession. But their locations were marked out and remain "hidden" within the current online World Map, which when clicked reveal their provisional region names too!
Gaeta V was the first Gaeta continent to be built. While looking completed, Gaeta V has some problems with it's coastline which need fixing too. It has six narrow "pinch points" around its coastline which can easily be fixed by moving some redundant offshore sea regions inshore to fill in the gaps. I wrote a Feature Request for this idea, which has recieved Tracked status already: https://feedback.secondlife.com/ldpw/p/fix-gaeta-v-continent-coastline-by-moving-6-spare-offshore-water-regions-inshore .
Gaeta I, II, III and IV could be completed by recycling regions reused from the original Nascera (Old Linden Homes) continents too. I also wrote another Feedback Request for this idea: https://feedback.secondlife.com/ldpw/p/recycle-old-linden-homes-continent-regions-for-reuse-elsewhere .
Below, I've attached maps I drew in 2021 of all five Gaeta continents. While they contain no extra detail of interior terrains (hills, mountains, rivers, lakes and forests all ignored), I did ensure that these "missing" continents all had navigable coastlines, which at the time I drew them, was my sole interest. You will have to imagine what these inland areas might have looked like!
Beylana Resident
SarahKB7 Koskinen This is an awesome point. The old legacy LL home continents can be repurposed to be the Gaetas. They don't even need to make a ton of new sims to do this. Just move the existing legacy LL home sims in to place. Great thinking!
SarahKB7 Koskinen
Beylana Resident Thank you! :)
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