Three avatars returned objects to me on my land
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throwshade Resident
I can't get avatars to stop returning objects on my land deeded to a group back to me. There seem to be a few factors at play. 1) Perhaps if I looked at what was against my border my objects in stretch were on someone else's land so I moved things in as much as I could to rectify this. 2) The first object that was returned to me was placed in the middle of my plot that is 2240 meters squared, so I'm unsure how it could have gone over my perimeter. 3) I have blocked, banned, used ban lines, asked them to stop, stood my ground, voiced, filed abuse reports, filed a ticket, and any thing else I can think of to stop this and yet it continues. I need help please. This feels like a griefing incident perhaps and/or a bug and I do not have any ideas who it would or could be.
I am dealing with someone who disrespects me as a woman and makes comments about my beautiful avatar instead of what we should be talking about, when we talked once. He has since disappeared as he says that he buys land and resells it and then the next person repeats his griefing behaviours. I have the name of his company. I have the name of the griefers. I hesitate to list them here.
I've noticed that when they terraform their land, and they do seem to do it most every day, that whatever is nearest to the North of me on the minimap is what gets tossed back to me now. This is the only thing that I have noticed that seems to be happening at the same time. But, they know that they are doing it and have admitted it on at least one occasion.
I have picked up all objects like gachas and my in-world transferable gaming objects that cannot be replaced.
I'm at a loss - I'm due to renew two memberships next month and this is certainly not an incentive to do so. However, I do believe that because I am now surrounded by new land sellers and renters that perhaps they are trying to push me out. But this is beyond bullying as too much time is being spent on this unpleasant experience way more than the positive things and activities I enjoy in the community.
This is my first time doing a JIRA, kindly let me know if there is anything else that I need to do. Thank you.
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Abnor Mole
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throwshade Resident
Abnor Mole Dear Abnor, I need to add that I just walked to the North/East corner of my land (where I have a wall up) and it shook my avatar and tossed me into the water below and yet I still seem to be on my land but in the water. There does appear to be a bug if it's tossing my avatar.
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Abnor Mole
Hi throwshade
We are very interested in any information you can give is in how the objects are being returned to find out if this is an actual bug. If there is a way you or someone else can reproduce the problem please update this thread with any information you may have.
Please understand that we cannot address abuse concerns in this format. We are very concerned with the hows in this case, but the whos and whys are something that have to be addressed by Governance via the abuse reports you have submitted.
Any information or steps you can give us in how to reproduce what you have described would be very welcome.
throwshade Resident
Abnor Mole Thank you, I will do my best to answer, perhaps the following may help:
10/08/2024
Message from Second Life:
Your object 'LOVE - GROUND SUN SPOTS - LARGE' has been returned to your inventory Lost and Found folder by <not named> from parcel <my parcel that only indicates 2 coordinates> due to parcel owner return.
10/10/2024
Message from Second Life:
Your object 'Extra Platform - Property Lines' has been returned to your inventory Lost and Found folder by <not named> from parcel <my parcel that only indicates 2 coordinates> due to parcel owner return.
10/11/2024
Message from Second Life:
Your object 'LOVE - SUMMER BREEZE FLUFF' has been returned to your inventory Lost and Found folder by <not named> from parcel <my parcel that only indicates 2 coordinates> due to parcel owner return.
Message from Second Life:
Your object 'LOVE - JUNGLE BUSH FILLER 2' has been returned to your inventory Lost and Found folder by <not named> from parcel <my parcel that only indicates 2 coordinates> due to parcel owner return.
Message from Second Life:
Your object 'CELESTE - Gentle Flowers - Standard - Blue' has been returned to your inventory Lost and Found folder by <not named> from parcel <my parcel that only indicates 2 coordinates> due to parcel owner return.
Message from Second Life:
Your object 'LOVE - BASIC GRASS' has been returned to your inventory Lost and Found folder by <not named> from parcel <my parcel that only indicates 2 coordinates> due to parcel owner return.
Message from Second Life:
Your object 'LOVE - JUNGLE TREE 1' has been returned to your inventory Lost and Found folder by <not named> from parcel <my parcel that only indicates 2 coordinates> due to parcel owner return.
Unfortunately, I cannot test how or reenact how this all happened as I am surrounded on all sides by neighbours who are mostly selling or renting including the ones from the North of me. It seems to happen when they are terraforming possibly. And, they are not amenable to working with me as they are too busy selling and one blocked me.
My land is constantly needing to be rebaked since this all started if that matters too.
Prior to this incident, I only used an orb with fairly lenient warnings, and I made friends who were passersby even and they are on my list to date. We had a nice neighbourhood before and I would like to continue that.
Thank you.
Iskrin Nightfire
I think I'm right in saying that if the land is deeded to group, then any of your group members could be returning your objects to you if they have appropriate roles in the group. Alternatively, you may be overflowing your parcel by rezzing something else, and then the sim decides what to return to you. Alternatively, someone to whom you have given edit permissions on your objects is deleting them to return them to you. So whoever is doing this is either:
1) in the group that the land is deeded to with a role that gives them the power of return
2) a person who has edit permissions on your objects and can delete them (which will return them to you)
3) a neighbour and your prim is actually on their land
If your objects are on your land and your neighbours do not have edit permissions and are not in the land group, they are literally powerless to return your objects to you.
throwshade Resident
Iskrin Nightfire Thank you for your feedback, Iskrin. I've followed what Peter suggested and so far so good!
Peter Stindberg
Try switching on Physics Metadata (Developer Menu -> Render Metadata -> Physics Shapes).
The Physics shape might overlap the parcel border invisibly (you'd be surprised how bad the physics shapes of some objects are), which then become returnable.
throwshade Resident
Peter Stindberg Hello, I have done what you suggested and there seem to be no objects overlapping the parcel borders invisibly. I've made a note how to do this for future reference. I truly appreciate your response. Things have been quiet over the weekend and if the griefing/bullying behaviours were only spurred on by that and they remain quiet and leave me alone now, then that's the fix. Thank you kindly!