Add marketplace policy regarding AI generated content
Chaser Zaks
So going into this, I want to disclaim that I myself am not against AI. I personally have used it before, and will do so in the future. A specific chat AI helps me regularly with solving problems.
However, I am against people intentionally misleading people about content, and polluting search results with content made in mere seconds, and find it no different than spam. If I made something that randomly generated randomly colored squares on a white canvas, and listed it a dozen or so times, it'd be seen as spam.
Additionally, this issue was brought up in the SL Discord marketplace chat. I've moved it here so that it can get more recognition and visibility to LL.
Personally, I believe that a policy worded like so would benefit everyone in the long run (canny has messed up some formatting here, so it looks like it has no line breaks, these have been substituted with "---" for readability)
Content that is the sole generation of Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning, or otherwise Generative Content, except in the cases where the generator was written for the sole purpose of generating a specific element, may not be listed on the Marketplace as-is or as the focal point of the content that is listed.
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AI images must never be used to generate listing images, and must be presented as the content appears in SL. Overlays, such as permission information, price, branding labels, or sales labels, are permitted as much so as they do not mis-represent the content that is being advertised.
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Examples of forbidden listings:
* In singular or collection, AI generated content as a texture, image, mesh, sound or other type of asset, as the sole content being listed.
* A AI generated image in a picture frame.
* A museum prefab filled with AI generated images as a "ready to go" model.
* A object that plays randomly generated AI voice clips.
* Attempting to pass off or mislead people that AI generated content as original, hand crafted content.
* A listing which shows a AI enhanced product preview.
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Examples of allowed listings:
* A house that has a AI generated poster in it, where the poster is not the selling point of the house.
* A museum model that has some AI generated images, or is focused on the topic of AI generated content.
* A NPC, that among other features, plays AI generated voice clips.
* A model that has AI generated textures, where the model is not AI generated.
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Listings that make use of 50% or more in it's creation must be clearly labeled as using AI generation or assistance in the listing description. Interpretation of what counts as "50% or more is" left solely to Linden Lab.
Listings that use AI but under the 50% threshold are recommended, but not required, to disclose that AI is used in some capacity.
In summary, it forbids listing of content on the marketplace, free or for sale, that is entirely AI generated, requires disclosure of AI generated content when AI does a majority of the work, and guards against some loopholes.
This probably (as in, very likely. I feel this is implied, but just in case) isn't needed, but: Because this will probably get passed by the lawyers, I hereby grant all permission to Linden Lab to use or transform the above work in any way, without attribution or compensation.
Linden Lab has the opportunity to deal with this now before it gets too out of control. Only a handful of residents would be in violation of this policy.
This also only applies to marketplace stuff, not in-world content.
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Gaffe OwO
This is vital. LL please listen.
Spidey Linden
Merged in a post:
Add a filter for AI Generated Images
Extrude Ragu
It is becoming difficult in some categories to find regular Second Life products.
For example, a search on 'Waterfall' sorted by newest first does not find waterfalls, but rather AI generated images of waterfalls.
I think we need a way to filter this out, or this could become a bigger problem over time in terms of product discovery.
ZortyTheExplorer Resident
i upvote but ll has no real reason to care because if it sells they are happy and creator is happy
stupid deviant art use my art to train their ai now ai marketplace
stupid turbosquid use my art to train ai now ai model marketplace
stupid shutterstock use my art to train ai now ai stock marketplace
end user does not care make everything cheap for them
Arwyn Quandry
It's important to note that at least in the US, AI-generated content is not copyrightable. A user selling AI art has no real claim over it. Any other user could take that same texture and sell it, and the original seller could not win a DMCA battle because the design is not their original work. Creators using AI in their designs put those items at risk. If nothing else, it would be good for LL to make that clear to those who would file a DMCA.
itoibo Resident
I am fine with AI content. Asking people to identify their AI work is nice, but only gets themselves blacklisted, while the people who refuse to say their AI work is AI will get sales. In the end, I just want what I see in the ad to be what I get. I do not care if it is AI, unless, of course, you are claiming it is handmade. If it looks good, and I get what the ad says and shows, then great. I am sorry but I do not care if you had to work your fingers to the bone or not to make it. That somethings has to be difficult and time consuming, in order to be valuable, is not something I believe.
Jaydoge Resident
itoibo Resident We, as the consumers who buy the products, have a right to know if a maker is making ai products we don't want to buy. If here was some kind of harmful flaw in a car engine, would you want to know before you bought the car? Or would you rather find out later when the car breaks down and you have to foot the bill to fix it?
Obviously this is an analogy and not a claim that ai products are gonna break/stop working, but think about it. We don't want to buy products products that were made with ai generators, they take jobs from real people, are built up on stolen work from real people, and harming the environment by wasting our natural resources that are finite.
Aglaia Resident
Not sure to understand. Are we talking about the marketplace pictures? Or are we talking about the content itself? These are two totally different subjects.
CrimsonAcanthus Resident
Aglaia Resident Content, so listings selling GenAI mesh or images.
Streex Foxtrot
If we have to live with AI content in the virtual world I would rather have disclosure, rather than not knowing. Having creators disclose they are using AI is a good step, and please let me filter those out of my markeplace searches.
Is this a perfect solution? No. But it’s better than attacking people outright.
harlequinn87 Resident
While in some cases, AI can be useful, i feel like having AI in the SL Marketplace is not a good idea, as it could easily be exploited to take advantage, or even scam users, while also making it harder for creators who worked harder to create things without AI to sell their own items.
I would be very much against having any AI generated content in the Marketplace. I would much rather support creators, and artists who work that much harder to create their own content.
VesperBloodwing Parx
I hate having to scour through content to make sure full perm textures I buy aren't made from AI or even products themselves. I'd like to be INFORMED on the legitimacy of the artwork or textures used.
Crush Cutie
I fully appreciate everything that's being said about generative AI in this thread.
However ..
It's based on at least one false premise.
- That the output of generative AI can always be accurately identified.
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Yes, it's easy to spot when things go wrong (too many fingers, etc).
When working well, AI can be indistinguishable from human work. This is the desired goal and if the tools aren't there today, they might be in 6 months. There have been massive advancements in the technology since this issue was posted, and given Linden time frames, will likely be irrelevant and unenforceable by the time it goes live.
Work "in the style" of AI is also a non starter. AI is designed to mimic human styles. We have already have seen accusations made against legitimate human artists and photographers that their work is actually AI. Conversely, AI work has been rejected because it felt it was 'too good' and actually human made.
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To illustrate the problem, I direct attention to the attached image. This is majority AI generated.
This is from an online craft art store. Most content is UGC.
In the last year these sites have been over run with AI content to the point that human artists are no longer competitive in any genre. Moderation attempted to remove AI content and protect artists, but this created an arms race. The AI art got better and won.
- The worst nonsense is highlighted. These make no sense.
- The second tier offenders can only be found with knowledge of the medium's meta, art styles or understanding of 'good' typography. These are literally correct, however present typographical errors (eg "yes women can" - "yes" has been placed over "woman" to make it appear like "wumen").
- The third tier stuff is indistinguishable.
Where these tiers fall is subjective and entirely dependent on the observer. All of this was deemed good enough to pass moderation.
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