hi, I raised this as a support ticket initially. It was investigated by Oatmeal Linden who advised me to log a bug. URL to ticket: https://lindenlab.freshdesk.com/support/tickets/2224523 Full ticket contents, if it helps - but Oatmeal added pics to the ticket which are useful: ecently I noticed there is a quite a large height discrepancy. My height was always consistent over my Edit Shape display height and a HUD I used to check height. Now, the HUD says what it always did, but now Edit Shape is way shorter! On top of that, I made a box which adds a 3rd value for height! I understand the HUD is not LL so we can discard it, but the box and the Edit Shape height should surely match as they are LL and they are in the same world. Or should be at least close to each other! See this pic for the differences! https://prnt.sc/RMkRV9McxEou In case you dont want to click a link: HUD: 1.61m Box: 1.559m or 1.56m round up Edit Shape: 1.48m This is quite a big difference. Please can you help / explain? Its worrying its apparently made my avatar super short @ 1.48m. My RL height is 1.62 and this is what I want in SL, how can I do this with so much variability? Will my new height of 1.48 make people think im a child?! With the new ToS I do not want this, but I also dont want to be a giant unnecessarily. Thanks! Angel Dakota said 8 days ago Also how will this affect our land? 64x64 is no longer 64x64..if the avatar and boxes match, which they should! # Oatmeal Linden said 13 hours ago Hello, Angel Dakota: Thank you for contacting support and for your patience! I am not certain how the avatar height is determined by your shape. I performed my tests with a couple of different avatars: one using a deformer to stretch the base shape's neck, and a human female and human male shape. For the box I used, I simply typed in the value for "z" to match the information from the shape editor panel. All tests displayed the discrepancy you found. I also tested a 4m x 4m box on a 4m x 4m parcel cut. These shapes matched exactly, so it seems that your land size is the same. After investigation, it appears as though this issue may be a bug or error which would be best handled through our bug report system using Second Life's feedback portal! ( https://feedback.secondlife.com/ ). While our Support team is always happy to help, there are certain technical issues which can only be addressed via a development or engineering investigation. Please note: You must verify your email to report bugs or request features on the feedback portal. If you receive an error when attempting to log into the feedback portal, or are redirected to the login page again after attempting to log in, please be sure to verify your email address. Please also note that only one Second Life account per unique email address can use the feedback portal; if you'd like to use the feedback portal with an alternate account, they will need a separate unique email address that is also verified. To file your issue on the feedback portal, please take the steps below: In the upper-right hand corner of feedback.secondlife.com , click Log In Enter your username and password After logging in, Click on the appropriate board. For most issues, “Bug Reports” is the best option. Use the form on the left to submit your report by filling in all the required fields. As you fill out your form the system will suggest similar issues that might match yours on the right side of the page, so make sure to check if your report is already posted. Attach any relevant pictures or screenshots by clicking on the attachment button on the bottom left. Click the Report Bug button on the bottom right For your convenience, please bookmark your issue for future reference, or to come back and add additional details in the future. In your report, please include as many details as possible about your problem: Which version of the client are you using? (This can be found in Help > About Second Life) Your computer specifications (from Help > About Second A description of the problem, explaining what you do / see / don't see, including any error messages Step-by-step directions on how to reproduce your issue A screenshot of what you are seeing. Including this information with your report will help the bug tracking team address your issue quickly. It is generally best to test with the official viewer, as third-party viewers may display information differently. You may download and install the latest version here: https://secondlife.com/support/downloads/ Because I cannot assist you directly in this regard, I'm going to mark this case as Resolved. However, should you have any further questions about this process, you can reopen this ticket by simply replying to it, and I'll be happy to provide you with additional clarification. Best wishes, Oatmeal Linden Concierge Support Specialist Linden Lab #